From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:25:43 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:25:25 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:00:29 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!news-server From: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: relcom.politics,talk.politics.soviet Subject: Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 12:31:54 GMT Sender: news-server@kremvax.hq.demos.su Reply-To: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR Lines: 234 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO From: mike@hq.ecsc.mipt.su (Kudryashev M.Yu.) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 91 12:37:26 +0200 (MSD) Subject: sOOB]ENIQ O TEKU]IH SOBYTIQH ukaz prezidenta rossijskoj sowetskoj federatiwnoj socialisti~eskoj respubliki oB OBESPE^ENII FUNKCIONIROWANIQ PREDPRIQTIJ I ORGANIZACIJ W rsfsr pROWEDENNYE 20 AWGUSTA 1991 G. PEREGOWORY RUKOWODITELEJ rsfsr S pREDSEDATELEM wERHOWNOGO sOWETA sssr lUKXQNOWYM a.i.,PO SU]ESTWU RAZMEVEWAW[IMSQ S TAK NAZYWAEMYM gk~p sssr, PODTWERVDAET ANTIKONSTITUCIONNOSTX OBRAZOWANIQ I DEJSTWIJ \TOGO kOMITETA. s U^ETOM REZULXTATOW PEREGOWOROW I PREDSTOQ]IM RASSMOTRENIEM wERHOWNYMI sOWETAMI rsfsr I sssr NEZAKONNYH DEJSTWIJ gk~p sssr P O S T A N O W L Q @: 1. rUKOWODITELQM WSEH PREDPRIQTIJ I ORGANIZACIJ, RASPOLOVENNYH NA TERRITORII rsfsr, NEZAWISIMO OT IH WEDOMSTWENNOJ PRINADLEVNOSTI I FORMY SOBSTWENNOSTI WPREDX DO OSOBYH RASPORQVENIJ RUKOWODSTWA rsfsr OBESPE^ITX NORMALXNU@ ORGANIZACI@ TRUDA W SOOTWETSTWII S ZAKONAMI rsfsr I sssr. 2. zAPRETITX NA TERRITORII rsfsr DEJSTWIE L@BYH HOZQJSTWENNYH RE[ENIJ I RASPORQVENIJ gk~p sssr ILI DRUGIH ORGANOW sssr, WYPOLNQ@]IH EGO UKAZANIQ. 3. tRUDOWYM KOLLEKTIWAM PREDPRIQTIJ I ORGANIZACIJ W SOOTWETSWII S zAKONOM rsfsr "o PREDPRIQTIQH I PREDPRINIMATELXSKOJ DEQTELXNOSTI" OKAZATX PODDERVKU HOZQJSTWENNYM RUKOWODITELQM W WYPOLNENII NASTOQ]EGO uKAZA. pREZIDENT rsfsr b.eLXCIN mOSKWA, kREMLX 20 AWGUSTA 1991 G. 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N 1 G. mOSKWA wO ISPOLNENIE uKAZOW pREZIDENTA rsfsr OT 19 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA N 61 I OT 20 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA N 67 prikazywa`: kOMANDU@]IM WOJSKAMI OKRUGOW, FLOTAMI, ARMIQMI, FLOTILIQMI, KOMANDIRAM SOEDINENIJ I WOINSKIH ^ASTEJ, NA^ALXNIKAM U^REVDENIJ, WOENNO-U^EBNYH ZAWEDENIJ, PREDPRIQTIJ I ORGANIZACIJ mINISTERSTWA oBORONY sssr, DISLOCIROWANNYH NA TERRITORII rsfsr: NE DOPUSKATX WYPOLNENIQ L@BYH RE[ENIJ I RASPORQVENIJ ANTKONSTITUCIONNOGO kOMITETA PO ^REZWY^AJNOMU POLOVENI@; ISKL@^ITX WOZMOVNOSTX PRIMENENIQ WOJSK I SIL FLOTA PROTIW MIRNOGO NASELENIQ I ZAKONNO IZBRANNYH ORGANOW GOSUDARSTWENNOJ WLASTI; PRINQTX NEZAMEDLITELXNYE MERY K WOZWRA]ENI@ POD^INENNYH WOJSK I SIL FLOTA W MESTA POSTOQNNOJ DISLOKACII I OBESPE^ITX PRODOLVENIE PLANOWYH U^EBNYH ZANQTIJ. oB ISPOLNENII DOLOVITX ^EREZ KOMANDU@]IH WOJSKAMI OKRUGOW K 6.00 21 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA. mINISTR OBORONY rsfsr GENERAL-POLKOWNIK k.kOBEC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ukaz prezidenta rossijskoj sowetskoj federatiwnoj socialisti~eskoj respubliki u^ITYWAQ SOZDAW[U@SQ OBSTANOWKU, P O S T A N O W L Q @: pERWOMU zAMESTITEL@ pREDSEDATELQ sOWETA mINISTROW rsfsr TOW. lOBOWU o.i., ^LENU gOSUDARSTWENNOGO sOWETA rsfsr TOW. qBLOKOWU a.w., ^LENU pREZIDIUMA wERHOWNOGO sOWETA rsfsr TOW. kRASAW^ENKO s.n. 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N62 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- eGO sWQTEJ[ESTWU sWQTEJ[EMU pATRIARHU mOSKOWSKOMU I wSEQ rUSI aLEKSI@ II wA[E sWQTEJ[ESTWO! tRAGI^ESKIE SOBYTIQ, PROIS[ED[IE MINUW[EJ NO^X@, PRI- NUVDA@T MENQ OBRATITXSQ K wAM, A ^EREZ wAS KO WSEM WERU@]IM rOSSII. pROIZO[LO WOPI@]EE BEZZAKONIE - GRUPPA WYSOKOPOSTAWLENNYH KORRUMPIROWANNYH PARTOKRATOW SOWER[ILA ANTIKONSTITUCIONNYJ GOSUDARSTWENNYJ PEREWOROT. oTSTRANEN OT WLASTI ZAKONNO IZBRANNYJ pREZIDENT sssr. pO-SU]ESTWU, NA WSEJ TERRITORII STRANY WWEDENO ^REZWY^AJNOE POLOVENIE, TEM SAMYM GRUBO POPRANA kONSTITUCIQ I ZAKONY sssr, KONSTITUCII I ZAKONY SUWERENNYH RESPUBLIK sO@ZA. nE SLU^AJNO, ^TO WSE \TO PROIZO[LO IMENNO W KANUN POD- PISANIQ NOWOGO sO@ZNOGO DOGOWORA, OTKRYWA@]EGO REALXNYJ PUTX WYHODA IZ KRIZISA, PUTX K SWOBODE, DEMOKRATII I PROGRESSU. pOPRANA NE TOLXKO NA[A GOSUDARSTWENNOSTX. nE TOLXKO WSTA@]AQ NA NOGI DEMOKRATIQ. pOPRANA SWOBODA NA[EGO GRAVDAN- SKOGO WYBORA. nAD STRANOJ WNOWX NAWISLA TXMA BEZZAKONIQ I PROIZWOLA. w \TU TRAGI^ESKU@ DLQ SUDEB NA[EGO oTE^ESTWA MINUTU PRIZYWA@ wAS, ISPOLXZUQ SWOJ AWTORITET SREDI WSEH RELIGIOZNYH KONFESSIJ I WERU@]IH, A TAKVE WLIQNIE CERKWI W NA[EM OB]ESTWE NE OSTATXSQ W STORONE OT PROISHODQ]EGO, IBO ONO NAPRQMU@ SWQ- ZANO S DELOM, KOTOROMU wY, wA[E sWQTEJ[ESTWO, POSWQTILI WS@ SWO@ VIZNX - SLUVENI@ L@DQM, ZABOTE OB IH SERDCAH I DU[AH. nASTRADAW[AQSQ ZA GODY TOTALITARIZMA CERKOWX WNOWX MOVET ISPYTATX NA SEBE TQGOTY PROIZWOLA I BEZZAKONIQ. wA[EGO sLOWA VDUT WERU@]IE, WESX RUSSKIJ NAROD, WSQ rOSSIQ. b. eLXCIN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- prikaz ministra oborony rsfsr 20 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA N2 G.mOSKWA oB OTMENE RE[ENIQ O KOMENDANTSKOM ^ASE W GORODE moskwe w SWQZI S POSTUPIW[IMI DANNYMI O PREDPOLAGAEMOM [TURME bELOGO dOMA rOSSII OFICERAMI kgb sssr WO WREMQ DEJSTWIQ KOMENDANTSKOGO ^ASA W GORODE mOSKWE, W SOOTWETSTWII S WOZLOVENNYMI NA MENQ uKAZOM pREZIDENTA rsfsr OBQZANNOSTQMI prikazywa`: 1. rE[ENIE O WWEDENII KOMENDANTSKOGO ^ASA W GORODE mOSKWE OTMENITX. 2. wSEM PODRAZDELENIQM, SLUVBAM I GRAVDANAM, U^ASTWU@]IM W ZA]ITE ZDANIQ dOMA sOWETOW rsfsr SOHRANQTX WYDERVKU I WYSOKU@ BDITELXNOSTX. mINISTR OBORONY rsfsr GENERAL-POLKOWNIK k.kOBEC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ukaz pREZIDENTA rOSSIJSKOJ sOWETSKOJ fEDERATIWNOJ sOCIALISTI^ESKOJ RESPUBLIKI o NAZNA^ENII mINISTRA OBORONY rsfsr dLQ OBESPE^ENIQ ^ETKOJ KOORDINACII PO UPRAWLENI@ WOJSKAMI I PREDOTWRA]ENIQ PRIMENENIQ WOJSK PROTIW MIRNOGO NASELENIQ P O S T A N O W L Q @: dO WOSSTANOWLENIQ W POLNOM OB_EME DEQTELXNOSTI KONSTITUCIONNYH ORGANOW I INSTITUTOW GOSUDARSTWENNOJ WLASTI I UPRAWLENIQ NAZNA^ITX mINISTROM OBORONY rsfsr pREDSEDATELQ gOSUDARSTWENNOGO KOMITETA rsfsr PO OBORONNYM WOPROSAM GENERAL- POLKOWNIKA kobca kONSTANTINA iWANOWI^A. pREZIDENT rsfsr b. eLXCIN mOSKWA, kREMLX 20 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA N 67 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:26:24 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:26:07 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:00:36 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!news-server From: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: relcom.politics,talk.politics.soviet Subject: Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 12:33:50 GMT Sender: news-server@kremvax.hq.demos.su Reply-To: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR Lines: 31 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO Date: Wed, 21 Aug 91 13:41:43 +0300 To: avg@demos.su From: xbatob@kaija.spb.su (Sergey B. Khvatov) avg@moria.demos.su in writes: > nE MOG BY KTO-NIBUDX IZ BOLEE SPOKOJNYH REGIONOW RASSYLATX > OBZORY TEKU]IH RADIOPEREDA^ (cOWKOWYH NE NADO)? w spB WYHODQT GAZETY (U MENQ S SOBOJ sMENA), NA sw RABOTAET NEPODCENZURNOE RADIO "oTKRYTYJ gOROD & rADIO bALTIKA", (ONO WYGLQDIT OPERATIWNEE I NADEVNEE GOLOSOW) MESTNOE RADIO I tw DEMONSTRIRU@T OTKRYTU@ OPPOZICI@ GORILLAM. mY USTANAWLIWAEM node W "sMENE" I POPROBUEM PERESTROITX TARELKU NA CNN ILI rOSSIJSKIJ gORIZONT (ESLI EGO E]E NE SBILI :-) kTO-TO IZ NA[IH ABONENTOW (WRODE BY wojciech@sph.spb.su) SNABVAET "oTKRYTYJ gOROD" INFORMACIEJ -- ONI SSYLA@TSQ NA Relcom. mY MOVEM PERESYLATX WAM WSE USLY[ANNOE, UWIDENNOE I PRO^ITANNOE, NO (1) NE BUDET LI \TO (OSOBENNO OBZOR GAZET) OPAZDYWATX (2) NE PRIHODIT LI \TO UVE K WAM RANX[E NAS. 00 sEJ^AS "rADIO bALTIKA" TRANSLIRUET SESSI@ ws IZ mOSKWY. wAVNYH NOWOSTEJ NE SLY[NO. From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:26:59 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:26:42 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:00:49 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!news-server From: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: relcom.politics,talk.politics.soviet Subject: Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 12:35:51 GMT Sender: news-server@kremvax.hq.demos.su Reply-To: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR Lines: 241 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO ukaz prezidenta rossijskoj sowetskoj federatiwnoj socialisti~eskoj respubliki o PREDSEDATELE gOSUDARSTWENNOGO KOMITETA rsfsr PO OBORONNYM WOPROSAM nAZNA^ITX kobca kONSTANTINA iWANOWI^A pREDSEDATELEM gOSUDARSTWENNOGO KOMITETA rsfsr PO OBORONNYM WOPROSAM. pREZIDENT rsfsr b.eLXCIN mOSKWA, kREMLX 19 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA N 60 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ukaz prezidenta rossijskoj sowetskoj federatiwnoj socialisti~eskoj respubliki pREDPRINQTA POPYTKA GOSUDARSTWENNOGO PEREWOROTA, OTSTRANEN OT DOLVNOSTI pREZIDENT sssr, QWLQ@]IJSQ wERHOWNYM gLAWNOKOMANDU@]IM wOORUVENNYH sIL sssr. wICE-PREZIDENT sssr, PREMXER-MINISTR sssr, pREDSEDATELX kgb sssr, MINISTRY OBORONY I WNUTRENNIH DEL WO[LI W ANTIKONSTITUCIONNYJ ORGAN, SOWER[IW TEM SAMYM GOSUDARSTWENNOE PRESTUPLENIE. w REZULXTATE \TIH DEJSTWIJ DEQTELXNOSTX ZAKONNOIZBRANNOJ ISPOLNITELXNOJ WLASTI sO@ZA ssr OKAZALASX PARALIZOWANNOJ. w SLOVIW[EJSQ ^REZWY^AJNOJ SITUACII POSTANOWLQE@ : 1. dO SOZYWA WNEO^EREDNOGO s_EZDA NARODNYH DEPUTATOW sssr WSE ORGANY ISPOLNITELXNOJ WLASTI sO@ZA ssr, WKL@^AQ kgb sssr, mwd sssr, mINISTERSTWO OBORONY sssr, DEJSTWU@]IE NA TERRITORII rsfsr PEREHODQT W NEPOSREDSTWENNOE POD^INENIE IZBRANNOGO NARODOM pREZIDENTA rsfsr. 2. kOMITETU GOSUDARSTWENNOJ BEZOPASNOSTI rsfsr, mINISTERSTWU WNUTRENNIH DEL rsfsr, gOSUDARSTWENNOMU KOMITETU rsfsr PO OBORONNYM WOPROSAM WREMENNO OSU]ESTWLQTX FUNKCII SOOTWETSTWKU@]IH ORGANOW sO@ZA ssr NA TERRITORII rsfsr. wSE TERRITORIALXNYE I INYE ORGANY mwd, kgb I mINISTERSTWO OBORONY NA TERRITORII rsfsr OBQZANY NEMEDLENNO ISPOLNQTX UKAZY I RASPORQVENIQ pREZIDENTA rsfsr, sOWETA mINISTROW rsfsr, PRIKAZY kgb rsfsr, mwd rsfsr, gOSUDARSTWENNOGO KOMITETA rsfsr PO OBORONNYM WOPROSAM. 3. wSEM ORGANAM, DOLVNOSTNYM LICAM, GRAVDANAM rsfsr PRINQTX NEZAMEDLITELXNYE MERY K TOMU, ^TOBY ISKL@^ITX WYPOLNENIE L@BYH RE[ENIJ I RASPORQVENIJ ANTIKONSTITUCIONNOGO kOMITETA PO ^REZWY^AJNOMU POLOVENI@. dOLVNOSTNYE LICA, WYPOLNQ@]IE RE[ENIQ UKAZANNOGO KOMITETA, OTSTRANQ@TSQ OT ISPOLNENIQ SWOIH OBQZANNOSTEJ W SOOTWETSTWII S kONSTITUCIEJ rsfsr. oRGANAM pROKURATURY rsfsr NEMEDLENNO PRINIMATX MERY DLQ PRIWLE^ENIQ UKAZANNYH LIC K UGOLOWNOJ OTWETSTWENNOSTI. pREZIDENT rsfsr b.eLXCIN mOSKWA, kREMLX 19 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA N 61 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ predsedatel` werhownogo soweta sssr TOW. lukxqnowu a.i. w SWQZI S NEKONSTITUCIONNYMI DEJSTWIQMI, PREDPRINQTYMI GRUPPOJ LIC, IMENU@]IH SEBQ "SOWETSKIM RUKOWODSTWOM", S^ITAEM NEOBHODIMYM NEZAMEDLITELXNO OSU]ESTWITX SLEDU@]IE DEJSTWIQ: 1. oRGANIZOWATX W TE^ENIE 24 ^ASOW S MOMENTA POLU^ENIQ wAMI \TOGO DOKUMENTA WSTRE^U b.n.eLXCINA, i.s.sILAEWA, r.i.hASBULATOWA S pREZIDENTOM sssr m.s.gORBA^EWYM. k WSTRE^E PRIWLE^X g.qNAEWA. 2. pROWESTI W BLIVAJ[IE 3 DNQ MEDICINSKOE OSWIDETELXSTWOWANIE pREZIDENTA sssr m.s.gORBA^EWA S U^ASTIEM SPECIALISTOW-\KSPERTOW wSEMIRNOJ ORGANIZACII ZDRAWOOHRANENIQ. wAL@TNYE RASHODY ROSSIJSKOE PRAWITELXSTWO PRINIMAET NA SEBQ. 3. rEZULXTATY OSWIDETELXSTWOWANIQ PREDATX GLASNOSTI. pRI POLOVITELXNYH REZULXTATAH NEZAMEDLITELXNO OBESPE^ITX EMU USLOWIQ DLQ WOZOBNOWLENIQ WYPOLNENIQ OBQZANNOSTEJ pREZIDENTA sssr. 4. nEZAMEDLITELXNO OTMENITX WSE OGRANI^ENIQ NA DEQTELXNOSTX ROSSIJSKIH SREDSTW MASSOWOJ INFORMACII, TEM BOLEE, ^TO W DRUGIH RESPUBLIKAH TAKIE OGRANI^ENIQ NE WWODILISX. 5. oTMENITX DEJSTWIE ^REZWY^AJNOGO POLOVENIQ NA WSEJ TERRITORII rsfsr NA WREMQ RABOTY SESII wERHOWNOGO sOWETA rsfsr, OBESPE^ITX BESPREPQTSTWENNYJ WYEZD I PRIBYTIE W mOSKWU NARODNYH DEPUTATOW rsfsr. 6. oTWESTI WOJSKA W MESTA IH POSTOQNNOJ DISLOKACII. 7. oBESPE^ITX pREZIDENTU rsfsr BESPREPQTSTWENNOE FUNKCIONIROWANIE W EGO REZIDENCII W kREMLE. 8. nEMEDLENNO WOSSTANOWITX WSE WIDY SWQZI DLQ NORMALXNOGO FUNKCIONIROWANIQ ROSSIJSKOGO RUKOWODSTWA. 9. pREKRATITX UGROZY W ADRES ROSSIJSKOGO RUKOWODSTWA, OBESPE^ITX EGO NEPRIKOSNOWENNOSTX I SWOBODU PEREDWIVENIQ. 10. oB_QWITX O ROSPUSKE NEZAKONNO SOZDANNOGO gOSUDARSTWENNOGO KOMITETA PO ^REZWY^AJNOMU POLOVENI@ W sssr I OTMENITX WSE EGO POSTANOWLENIQ I RASPORQVENIQ. pREZIDENT rsfsr b.n.eLXCIN wICE-PREZIDENT rsfsr a.w.rUCKOJ pREDSEDATELX sOWETA mINISTROW rsfsr i.s.sILAEW i.O.pREDSEDATELQ wERHOWNOGO sOWETA rsfsr r.i.hASBULATOW 20/VIII-91 G. 9 ^. 10 MIN. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- uKAZ pREZIDENTA rOSSIJSKOJ sOWETSKOJ fEDERATIWNOJ sOCIALISTI^ESKOJ rESPUBLIKI oB UPRAWLENIJ wOORUVENNYMI sILAMI sO@ZA ssr NA TERRITORII rsfsr W USLOWIQH ^EREZWY^AJNOJ SITUACII w REZULXTATE PREDPRINQTOJ W NO^X S 18 NA 19 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA POPYTKI GOSUDARSTWENNOGO PEREWOROTA OTSTRANEN OT DOLVNOSTI pREZIDENT sssr, QWLQ@]IJSQ wERHOWNYM gLAWNOKOMANDU@]IM wOORUVENNYMI sILAMI sssr. wICE-PREZIDENT sssr, mINISTR OBORONY sssr, PERWYJ ZAMESTITELX PREDSEDATELQ sOWETA OBORONY I DRUGIE ^LENY sOWETA OBORONY sssr WSTALI NA PRESTUPNYJ PUTX NASILXSTWENNOGO IZMENENIQ KONSTITUCIONNOGO STROQ, ^EM POSTAWILI SKBQ WNE ZAKONA I NE MOGUT ISPOLNQTX OBQZANNOSTI PO UPRAWLENI@ wOORUVENNYMI sILAMI sO@ZA ssr W CELOM. u^ITYWAQ NEOBHODIMOSTX OBESPE^ENIQ BEZOPASNOSTI W USLOWIQH OTSUSTWIQ KONSTITUCIONNOGO UPRAWLENIQ wOORUVENNYMI sILAMI sO@ZA ssr NA TERRITORII rsfsr POSTANOWLQ@: 1. dO WOSSTANOWLENIQ W POLNOM OB_EME DEQTELXNOSTI KONSTITUCIONNYH ORGANOW I INSTITUTOW GOSUDARSTWENNOJ WLASTI I UPRAWLENIQ sO@ZA ssr KOMANDOWANIE wOORUVENNYMI sILAMI sssr NA TERRITORII rsfsr S 17 ^ASOW 00 MINUT MOSKOWSKOGO WREMENI 20 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA PRINIMA@ NA SEBQ. 2. wSEM WOINSKIM ^ASTQM I PODRAZDELENIQM wOORUVENNYH sIL sssr, WOJSKAM kgb sssr, RASPOLOVENNYM NA TERRITORII rsfsr, WPREDX DO OSOBOGO MOEGO RASPORQVENIQ OSTAWATXSQ W MESTAH POSTOQNNOJ DISLOKACII. wYDWINUTYM ^ASTQM I PODRAZDELENIQM WERNUTXSQ W MESTA POSTOQNNOJ DISLOKACII. 3. w SWQZI S U^ASTIEM mINISTRA OBORONY sssr d.t.qZOWA W GOSUDARSTWENNOM PEREWOROTE WSE IZDANNYE IM S 18 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA PRIKAZY I DRUGIE RE[ENIQ OTMENQ@TSQ. wPREDX PRIKAZY I DRUGIE RE[ENIQ, PODPISANNYE d.t.qZOWYM I w.a.kR@^KOWYM K ISPOLNENI@ NE PRINIMATX. 4. kOMANDU@]EMU mOSKOWSKIM WOENNYM OKRUGOM GENERAL- POLKOWNIKU n.w.kALININU WOZWRATITX ^ASTI mOSKOWSKOGO WOENNOGO OKRUGA W MESTA POSTOQNNOJ DISLOKACII. 5. wYS[IJ KOMANDNYJ SOSTAW, OFICERY I DRUGIE WOENNOSLUVA]IE wOORUVENNYH sIL sssr NA TERRITORII rsfsr, WERNYE kONSTITUCII sssr I WOENNOJ PRISQGE, PRINESENNOJ NA[EJ MNOGONACIONALXNOJ rODINE, POSTUPA@T W POD^INENIE PREZIDENTA rsfsr I ISPOLNQ@T SWOJ WOINSKIJ DOLG W SOOTWETSTWII S kONSTITUCIEJ sssr I zAKONAMI sssr. 6. mOI POLNOMO^IQ KOMANDU@]EGO wOORUVENNYMI sILAMI sssr NA TERRITORII rsfsr PREKRA]A@TSQ PRI WOZWRA]ENII K ISPOLNENI@ OBQZANNOSTEJ PREZIDENTA sssr, wERHOWNOGO gLAWNOKOMANDU@]EGO wOORUVENNYMI sILAMI sssr LIBO PRI FORMIROWANII W SOOTWETSTWII S kONSTITUCIEJ sssr I ZAKONAMI sssr NOWOGO SOSTAWA ORGANOW UPRWLENIQ wOORUVENNYMI sILAMI sssr. 7. wICE-PREZIDENTU rsfsr a.w.rUCKOWU PODGOTOWITX PREDLOVENIQ PO SOZDANI@ NACIONALXNOJ GWARDII rsfsr. 8. sOWETU mINISTROW rsfsr POSTAWITX NA WE]EWOE I DENEVNOE DOWOLXSTWIE ^ASTI I PODRAZDELENIQ wOORUVENNYH sIL sssr, DISLOCIROWANNYH NA TERRITORII rsfsr. 9. nASTOQ]IJ UKAZ WSTUPAET W SILU S MOMENTA PODPISANIQ. pREZIDENT rsfsr b.eLXCIN mOSKWA, kREMLX 20 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA N 64 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ o b r a } e n i e K WOINAM oTDELXNOJ MOTOSTRELKOWOJ DIWIZII IM. dZERVINSKOGO wOINY-SOOTE^ESTWENNIKI! sYNOWXQ! q, pREZIDENT rOSSII, IZBRANNYJ WOLEJ NA[EGO MNOGOSTRADALXNOGO NARODA, OBRA]A@SX K WAM W \TOT NELEGKIJ DLQ oT^IZNY ^AS. pERED WAMI WYBOR: LIBO OKAZATX PODDERVKU GRUPPE ZAGOWOR]IKOW, UZURPIROWAW[IH WLASTX, WYPOLNITX PRESTUPNYJ PRIKAZ I POJTI TEM SAMYM PROTIW SWOEGO NARODA, LIBO ZA]ITITX DEMOKRATI@, ZAKONNU@, NARODOM IZBRANNU@ WLASTX. pERWYJ PUTX WEDET STRANU K BRATOUBIJSTWENNOJ GRAVDANSKOJ WOJNE, K VESTOKOMU KROWOPROLITI@. wTOROJ VE GARANTIRUET GRAVDANSKIJ MIR, KONSTITUCIONNYJ PORQDOK I BEZOPASNOSTX. dOROGIE MOI SYNOWXQ! q NADE@SX NA WAS, NA WA[ PRAWILXNYJ WYBOR. nADE@SX, ^TO WY STANETE NA STORONU ZAKONNOJ WLASTI - pREZIDENTA rsfsr. uWEREN, ^TO WY NE DOPUSTITE NASILIQ, ^TO WA[IM OTCAM I MATERQM NE BUDET GORXKO ZA SWOIH DETEJ. sOOTE^ESTWENNIKI! wOINY! dZERVINCY! q OTDA@ WAM PRIKAZ: NEMEDLENNO BEZ KOLEBANIJ PEREJTI NA STORONU ZAKONNOJ WLASTI, SOBL@DAQ PRI \TOM PORQDOK I DISCIPLINU. uNIVENNAQ, OSKORBLENNAQ, WELIKAQ rOSSIQ ZOWET WAS. b.eLXCIN From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:27:44 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:27:26 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:00:56 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!news-server From: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: relcom.politics,talk.politics.soviet Subject: Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 12:40:19 GMT Sender: news-server@kremvax.hq.demos.su Reply-To: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR Lines: 133 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO postanowlenie prezidiuma werhownogo soweta rsfsr o SOZYWE ^REZWY^AJNOJ SESSII wKRHOWNOGO sOWETA rsfsr w NO^X S 18 NA 19 AWGUSTA POLITI^ESKAQ OBSTANOWKA W NA[EJ STRANE KORENNYM OBRAZOM IZMENILASX W REZULXTATE ANTIKONSTITUCIONNOGO PEREWOROTA. w SOOTWETSTWII S kONSTITUCIEJ sssr ^REZWY^AJNOE POLOVENIE MOGLO BYTX WWEDENO wERHOWNYM sOWETOM sssr ILI pREZIDENTOM sssr S SOGLASIQ RESPUBLIKI, A PRI OTSUTSTWII TAKOGO SOGLASIQ - RE[ENIEM wKRHOWNOGO sOWETA sssr, PRINQTYM BOLX[INSTWOM NE MENEE DWUH TRETIJ OT OB]EGO ^ISLA EGO ^LENOW. pOSKOLXKU PRI WWEDENII ^REZWY^AJNOGO POLOVENIQ BYLA NARU[ENA kONSTITUCIQ sssr, POSTOLXKU DEJSTWIQ TAK NAZYWAEMOGO ~REZWY^AJNOGO KOMITETA QWLQ@TSQ GOSUDARSTWENNYM PEREWOROTOM. pOSTAWLENNO POD WOPROS NORMALXNOE FUNKCIONIROWANIE KONSTITUCIONNYH ORGANOW WLASTI rsfsr. w SLOVIW[EJSQ SITUACII pREZIDIUM wERHOWNOGO sOWETA rsfsr P O S T A N O W L Q E T : 1. sOZWATX WNEO^EREDNU@ SESSI@ wERHOWNOGO sOWETA rsfsr 21 AWGUSTA W 11.00 W dOME sOWETOW rsfsr S POWESTKOJ DNQ "o POLITI^ESKOJ SITUACII W rsfsr, SLOVIW[EJSQ W REZULXTATE GOSUDARSTWENNOGO PEREWOROTA". 2. iSPOLNENIE RE[ENIJ TAK NAZYWAEMOGO ~REZWY^AJNOGO KOMITETA BUDET KWALIFICIROWATXSQ KAK U^ASTIE W SOWER[ENII GOSUDARSTWENNOGO PRESTUPLENIQ SO WSEMI WYTEKA@]IMI POSLEDSTWIQMI. pERWYJ \AMESTITELX pREDSEDATELQ wERHOWNOGO sOWETA rsfsr r.i.hasbulatow mOSKWA, dOM sOWETOW rsfsr 19 AWGUSTA 1991 GODA #1624-1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- k SOLDATAM I OFICERAM wOORUVENNYH sIL sssr, kgb sssr, mwd sssr wOENNOSLUVA]IE! sOOTE^ESTWENNIKI! pREDPRINQTA POPYTKA GOSUDARSTWENNOGO PEREWOROTA. oT- STRANEN OT DOLVNOSTI pREZIDENT sssr, 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I IH SOOB]NIKI SOWER[ILI TQG^AJ[IE GOSUDARSTWENNYE PRES- TUPLENIQ, NARU[IW STATX@ 62 kONSTITUCII sssr, STATXI 64, 69, 70, 70.1, 72 uGOLOWNOGO kODEKSA rsfsr I SOOTWETSTWU@]IE STATXI oSNOW UGOLOWNOGO ZAKONODATELXSWA sO@ZA ssr I sO@ZNYH RESPUBLIK. iZMENIW NARODU, oT^IZNE I kONSTITUCII ONI POSTAWILI SEBQ WNE zANONA. nA OSNOWANII WY[EIZLOVENNOGO P O S T A N O W L Q @ : sOTRUDNIKAM ORGANOW PROKURATURY, GOSUDARSTWENNOJ BEZOPAS- NOSTI, WNUTRENNIH DEL sssr I rsfsr, WOENNOSLUVA]IM, OSOZNA@]IM OTWETSTWENNOSTX ZA SUDXBY NARODA I GOSUDARSTWA, NE VELA@]IM NASTUPLENIQ DIKTATURY, GRAVDANSKOJ WOJNY, KROWOPROLITIQ DAETSQ PRAWO DEJSTWOWATX NA OSNOWANII kONSTITUCII I ZAKONOW sssr I rsfsr. kAK pREZIDENT rOSSII OT IMENI IZBRAW[EGO MENQ NARODA GARANTIRU@ wAM PRAWOWU@ ZA]ITU I MORALXNU@ PODDERVKU. sUDXBA rOSSII I sO@ZA W WA[IH RUKAH. pREZIDENT rsfsr b.eLXCIN mOSKWA, kREMLX From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:28:58 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:28:41 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:01:08 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!news-server From: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: relcom.politics,talk.politics.soviet Subject: Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 12:44:39 GMT Sender: news-server@kremvax.hq.demos.su Reply-To: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR Lines: 50 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO From: mike@hq.ecsc.mipt.su (Kudryashev M.Yu.) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 91 13:32:48 +0200 (MSD) pEREDANO PO TELEFONU, ZAPISANO S rADIO sWOBODA iNFORMACIQ POLU^ENNAQ OT aNDREQ bABICKOGO I mIHAILA sOKOLOWA PO PRQMOMU TELEFONU I PEREDANNAQ PO RADIO "sWOBODA" 0.15. pERWYE WYSTRELY. btr I TANKI. pERWYE VERTWY. 0.20. wOSXMERKA PRIZYWAET RAZOJTISX I NE OKAZYWATX SOPROTIWLENIQ. iZ KOMISSII PO ZAKONNOSTI SOOB]ILI, ^TO 30 btr POD_EHALI K PARLAMENTU. 0.30. pOZWONIL ^ELOWEK S kALININSKOGO PROSPEKTA IZ DOMA, WYHODQ]EGO NA tass. wIDEL, ^TO TANK PEREEHAL ^ELOWEKA. iDET STRELXBA. tANKI DWIVUTSQ NA BARRIKADY. nA 11 \TAVE NAHODQTSQ OBSTRELIWAEMYE DEPUTATY. sO SLOW NARODNOGO DEPUTATA, bmp NA ULICE ~AJKOWSKOGO RQDOM S POSOLXSTWOM s{a. mA[INY OSTANAWLIWALISX NA DEPUTATSKIE NE REAGIROWALI. oTKRYLI STRELXBU NAD GOLOWAMI DEPUTATOW. pO[LI NA PRORYW I SMQLI GRUZOWIKI. 0.40. pODTWERVDENA INFORMACIQ O ZADAWLENNOM ^ELOWEKE NA BARRIKADAH W RAJONE METRO bARRIKADNAQ. nA PEREKRESTKE ULICY ~AJKOWSKOGO I pROTO^NOGO PEREULKA GORQT TANKI. iZ OKNA PARLAMENTA SLY[NY WYSTRELY. l@DI STANOWQTSQ CEPX@ POPEREK kALININSKOGO MOSTA. mNOGO VEN]IN, ESTX DETI. pOKA TANKI NE PODO[LI WPLOTNU@, NO OVIDAETSQ POQWLENIE S MINUTY NA MINUTU. 0.45. nI^EGO OPREDELENNOGO. l@DI STOQT POPEREK kALININSKOGO MOSTA. pRI POPYTKE TANKA PRORWATXSQ ^EREZ BARRIKADY NA sADOWOM KOLXCE UBIT WYSTRELOM ODIN ^ELOWEK, NESKOLXKO RANENY. dWA TANKA GORQT. tELO POGIB[EGO OBNARUVENO U POSOLXSTWA s{a. w SLU^AE ATAKI kgb NA PARLAMENT PRIKAZANO OTKRYWATX OGONX BEZ PREDUPREVDENIQ. iZ OKNA WIDNO KAK KOLONNA TANKOW, btr I bmp PODHODIT K BARRIKADAM. nE HWATAET ORUVIQ. tOLXKO ^TO DEPUTATY ZAKON^ILI SOWE]ANIE W ZALE sOWETA nACIONALXNOSTEJ. wYSKAZANO OB]EE MNENIE, ^TO OKAZYWATX SOPROTIWLENIE I PODSTAWLQTX L@DEJ POD PULI NELXZQ. dEPUTATY RE[ILI OSTAWATXSQ W ZALE sOWETA nACIONALXNOSTEJ, ^TOBY KOGDA ZDANIE BUDET ZANQTO, BYLO QSNO, ^TO PARLAMENT NE BEVAL W PANIKE. wOENNYE SKAZALI, ^TO BUDUT DO KONCA ZA]I]ATX ZAKONNO IZBRANNOGO PREZIDENTA rOSSII. nIKTO NE HO^ET S^ASTXQ STRANY CENOJ VIZNI SWOIH L@DEJ. sEJ^AS ZATI[XE, NE STRELQ@T. nO KOGDA [LI btr, STRELQLI, SOLDATY WELI SEBQ KRAJNE VESTOKO, IZBIWALI L@DEJ. 2.45. eSTX INFORMACIQ O NEZNA^ITELXNYH STOLKNOWENIQH W RAZNYH TO^KAH mOSKWY. nO DO SIH POR NIKAKIH PLANOWYH DEJSTWIJ WOINSKIE PODRAZDELENIQ NE PRINIMA@T. omon U[EL OT mOSSOWETA. uHODIT S NABEREVNOJ. 3.00. wSE TIHO. pRI[LI W PODDERVKU KORABLI OT sO@ZA RE^NIKOW. From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:29:35 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:29:18 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:01:15 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!news.funet.fi!fuug!mcsun!cernvax!chx400!sicsun!disuns2!disuns2.epfl.ch!simon From: simon@liasun2.epfl.ch (Simon Leinen) Newsgroups: eunet.politics Subject: Re: Coup in the Soviet Union Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 09:53:44 GMT References: <1991Aug19.150828.14923@ida.liu.se> <10553@tpki.toppoint.de> Sender: news@disuns2.epfl.ch Reply-To: simon@liasun6.epfl.ch Followup-To: eunet.politics Organization: DI-LIA -- Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Lines: 27 Nntp-Posting-Host: liasun5.epfl.ch In-Reply-To: olaf@tpki.toppoint.de's message of 20 Aug 91 12:52:29 GMT X-Md4-Signature: c367d5319601c318ad9c4ca3b02ab961 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO I think there is only a UUCP connection via modem to the Soviet Union. The following article has been posted to from talk.politics.soviet and soc.culture.soviet. -- Simon. ------------------------- Forwarded Article follows ------------------------- From: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet Subject: PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU'LL TRY TO E-MAIL TO SOVIET UNION Message-ID: Date: 19 Aug 91 22:28:49 GMT Sender: news-server@kremvax.hq.demos.su Reply-To: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR PLEASE STOP FLOODING THE ONLY NARROW CHANNEL WITH BOGUS MESSAGES WITH SILLY QUESTIONS. NOTE THAT IT'S NEITHER A TOY NOR A MEAN TO REACH TO YOUR RELATIVES OR FRIENDS. WE NEED THE BANDWIDTH TO HELP TO ORGANIZE THE RESISTANCE, PLEASE, DO NOT (EVEN UNINTENTIONALLY) HELP THESE FASCISTS! BEFORE SENDING SOMETHING TO SOVIET UNION PLEASE THINK TWICE (OR BETTER THRICE). THANK YOU! Vadim Antonov DEMOS, Moscow, USSR From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:30:12 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:29:51 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:01:26 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!jvdrd!relcom!news-server From: postmaster@brokin.msk.su (Grachov Vadim Anatolyevich) Newsgroups: relcom.politics,talk.politics.soviet Subject: "--" 13.26 21 Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 10:43:50 GMT Sender: news-server@relcom Reply-To: postmaster@brokin.msk.su Organization: KIAE Lines: 32 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO "b-i-s" 13.30 21 AWGUSTA iNFORMACIQ IZ bELOGO DOMA. nEOFICIALXNAQ: kR@^KOW PREDLOVIL ZAEHATX ZA eLXCINYM I WMESTE OTPRAWITXSQ K qNAEWU NA PEREGOWORY. sESSIQ OTWERGLA \TO PREDLOVENIE I PRED- LOVILA OTPRAWITX NA WYQSNENIE OBSTOQTELXSTW hASBULATOWA I sI- LAEWA. kR@^KOW NA POD'EZDE. nEIZWESTNO SOGLASITSQ LI ON NA PEREGOWORY NA \TIH USLOWIQH. mOSKWA ZAKRYTA DLQ W'EZDA I WYEZDA LEGKOWOGO TRANSPORTA. oFICIALXNYE DANNYE SESSII: sESSIQ SOOB]AET, ^TO [TURMA bELOGO DOMA SEGODNQ NO^X@ NE BY- LO. wSE SOBYTIQ PROISHODILI NA ULICE ~AJKOWSKOGO. uBITO 5 ^E- LOWEK. rANENO 10. s SEGODNQ[NEGO DNQ L@DI NE BUDUT BEZ SPEC PROPUSKOW PROHODITX WNUTRX KOLXCA OCEPLENIQ bELOGO DOMA. w BELOM DOME RABOTAET 4 (SNOWA) RADIOPEREDAT^IKA, NO RADIUS DEJSTWIQ - 3-4 KM. sOOB]ENIQ IZ nIVNEGO nOWGORODA: RABOTAET TELEWIDENIE W POD^I- NENII pREZIDENTU rOSSII. fax 42-12-16 W nIVNEM nOWGORODE (lA- TY[EWU DLQ TV). sOZDANY STA^KOMY. nA gazE TOVE, NO ON WRQD LI BUDET BASTOWATX. oB'QWLENA PREDUPREDITELXNAQ ZABASTOWKA WODI- TELEJ AWTOBUSOW. nA SESSII W nIV. nOW. OBLASTNAQ PROKURATURA I SAMA SESSIQ ZAKLEJMILI gk~p KAK GOSUDARSTWENNYH PRESTUPNI- KOW. mUVAJTESX! From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:30:44 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:30:27 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:01:51 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!relcom!news-server From: korotay@hq.demos.su (korotaev) Newsgroups: relcom.politics,talk.politics.soviet Subject: . Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 12:23:17 GMT Sender: news-server@relcom Reply-To: korotay@hq.demos.su Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR Lines: 3 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO pO SWEDENIQM CNN I PO SOOB]INI@ IZ mOSSOWETA KREMLEWSKAQ WOSXMERKA IMEET NAMERENIQ WYLETETX W "kRYM". eLXCIN PREDPRINIMAET POPYTKI PO ZADERVANI@ PRESTUPNOJ GRUPPIROWKI. From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:31:51 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:31:33 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:02:10 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!ugle.unit.no!nuug!ifi.uio.no!kth.se!eru!bloom-beacon!mintaka!yale!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!ig!cat.syr.edu!anderson From: anderson@CAT.SYR.EDU (Joseph Anderson) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: Re: Soviet Bulletin #25 Message-Id: <9108211307.AA10917@cat.syr.edu> Date: 21 Aug 91 13:07:25 GMT Sender: daemon@presto.ig.com Reply-To: "talk.politics.soviet via ListServ" Lines: 6 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO > While Cube, Iraq, the PLO and Libya applauded the fall of Gorbachev I'd like some background qualifiers to this statement. especially other than %@#^! anderson@cat.syr.edu From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:32:31 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:32:12 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:02:16 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!kth.se!eru!bloom-beacon!mintaka!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!att!cbnewsl!sethr From: sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: Re: Soviet Bulletin #25 Message-Id: <1991Aug21.165038.4999@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Date: 21 Aug 91 16:50:38 GMT References: <9108211307.AA10917@cat.syr.edu> <5904@inews.intel.com> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 29 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO In article <5904@inews.intel.com>, bhoughto@hopi.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes: > In article <9108211307.AA10917@cat.syr.edu> "talk.politics.soviet via ListServ" writes: > >> While Cube, Iraq, the PLO and Libya applauded the fall of Gorbachev > > > > I'd like some background qualifiers to this statement. > > especially other than %@#^! > > Can't remember which of the poli-chat shows I saw it on (all > the networks and CNN are doing nightly reports, getting their > money's worth for their staff in Moscow), but Cuba is "reserving > judgment" on the coup, and hopes that "western imperialism" > doesn't gain from it; I heard nothing about Lybia; Iraq claims > to have INSTIGATED the coup... :-) > > --Blair > "That Saddam. Such a kidder." CNN was running a picture showing the official Baghdad daily newspaper running front page news articles welcoming the coup and congratulating the "victors". They also quoted Khadaffy. Seems like Soviet arms didn't do either of them much good in the long run. They work real well on Kurds though. Also Chadis. Seth Rosenthal Disclaimer: All opinions are my own, not my employers'. From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:33:09 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:32:49 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:02:22 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!ugle.unit.no!nuug!ifi.uio.no!kth.se!eru!bloom-beacon!mintaka!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!udel!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!skippy.umiacs.umd.edu!ktaylor From: ktaylor@skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (Kenneth Taylor) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: Gang of Eight Arrested Message-Id: <38419@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 21 Aug 91 13:02:50 GMT References: <4886@stl.stc.co.uk> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Reply-To: ktaylor@umiacs.umd.edu (Kenneth Taylor) Organization: UMIACS, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742 Lines: 10 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO A report on CNN radio and NPR says that the gang of eight has been arrested at the Moscow airport. Also BBC is reported to have broadcast pictures of tanks >>leaving<< Moscow. In the same report, it was said that someone, can't remember who, but one of Gorbachev's intimates not involved in the coupe, reports having spoken with Gorbachev. Looks like the end is in sight. (let us pray) ken taylor From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:33:42 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:33:25 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:03:07 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!relcom!news-server From: an@inzer.demos.su (Andrew Pochinsky) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: Last night in Moscow Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 13:16:43 GMT Sender: news-server@relcom Reply-To: an@inzer.demos.su Organization: Steepler Ltd. Lines: 47 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO From: avg@moria.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 91 09:46:48 +0300 From: root@pczz.msk.su (0000-Admin(0000)) Subject: [NEWS] News from White House Reply-To: root@pczz.msk.su Date: Wed, 21 Aug 91 8:12:52 MSK Here is an appocsimate transaltion: ----------------- Hello! 7:30 am I've just from the RWH cordons where spent all the night through. So, what happened there: At 8:00 pm there where about 50-70 thousands people. They were there all the night and begun going out only in the morning. There were several lines of cordons around the building. At one o'clock the situation was very tense, the mashine-gun shots sounded from the downtown (probaply from Sadovoe Kolzo). Suddenly several tracer burst appeared near the former Economic Relations Council (SEV) building and at the opposite side of the Kalininsky prospect. I should say the RWH defenders were steady on this threat. 20-30 minutes later the sitiation around WRH remained the same, and we got information on what happened in the tunnel under the Kalininsky prospect. Several APC's (BMP in russian) entered the tunnel when the piece of tar was thrown on one of them. The driver lost the orientation and start circling, knock down two peoples and clushed the other APC. At the people were killed the bottle of incendiary stuff was thrown on a APC of 6 in tunnel. The vehicle was in fire and started shooting and one more pesron was killed. The crews of the firing APC and that who smashed the people escaped their vehicles and run. One officer was catched by the croud and kicked to the death. the APCs were blocked in the tunnel by the barricades of the troleybusses and trucks. The rest crews had remained inside for about an hour. After that they were convinced to join the defenders. The APCs were guided to the nearest barricade at the Kalininsky prospect. (Four of them, one was burned and other damaged the trak in a slash). There were several more alerts in the rest of night. The troops moved to us from all the sides but noone reached the WRH. Latest bad news was that the Vitebskaya division is close on the Mozaiskoe highway, but the deputies were told convienced them to stop far enough from the RWH. That seems to be all. By the way: the minister of the defence Yazov resigned and is replaced according to the rumors by even more prominent scum*. The rumors say Kryuchkov (KGB-in-chief) also resigned. At 2:00am Shevardnadze appeared in the RWH and cheered the people up. olg@ ------------end of text The nominated putscher military minister is Gn. Moiseev, the great riff-raff. From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:34:18 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:33:58 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:03:11 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!relcom!news-server From: moroz@inzer.demos.su (Oleg Moroz) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: Putsch is over, folks ! Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 15:40:28 GMT Sender: news-server@relcom Reply-To: moroz@inzer.demos.su Organization: Steepler Ltd. Lines: 19 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO Hello from Moscow ! You probably heard already that the putsch is over. WE WON !!! All 8 main putschers are flying by Aeroflot plane to Crimea. Boris Yeltsin called Ukrainian president Kravchuk by phone and asked him to ban their landing, so they'll probably be returned to Moscow. It's great, I think. Thank all of you who read our news eagerly, who wrote to t.p.s and here, who just helped us to hold out these two days. Oleg -- Oleg Moroz Internet: moroz@inzer.demos.su Software engineer phone: +007 (095) 245-2194 Moscow, USSR +007 (095) 214-8192 From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:34:51 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:34:34 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:03:18 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!relcom!news-server From: dimitri@inzer.demos.su (Dimitri Rakitin) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 15:49:33 GMT Sender: news-server@relcom Reply-To: dimitri@inzer.demos.su Organization: Steepler Ltd. Lines: 48 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO WE WON !!! -- Dimitri I. Rakitin, Steepler Ltd. | Phone: +7 (095) 245-8662 (Office) Internet: dimitri@inzer.demos.su | +7 (095) 147-1062 (Home) P.O.Box 30, Moscow, 103031, USSR | Fax: +7 (095) 245-2194 (voice/data) From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:35:28 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:35:10 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:03:23 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!news-server From: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: no more Russian messages Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 17:29:59 GMT Sender: news-server@kremvax.hq.demos.su Reply-To: avg@jumbo.hq.demos.su Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR Lines: 8 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO The situation calmed down and I'll stop feeding Russian texts to t.p.s. TV and newspapers will inform you much better. Peace for everybody. Vadim Antonov DEMOS, Moscow, USSR From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:36:00 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:35:42 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:03:29 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!news-server From: alxfed@plasma.gpi.msk.su (Alexander V. Fedotov) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: End of junta Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 11:02:22 GMT Sender: news-server@kremvax.hq.demos.su Reply-To: alxfed@plasma.gpi.msk.su Organization: Plasma Physics Division, Institute for General Physics Lines: 12 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO According to the info from the supreme council of Russia the junta (all its members) went to the 'Vnukovo' airport. President of Russia Yeltsyn ordered 'Aeroflot',KGB and troops to arrest them. This deceision was approved by the congress of supreme council of Russia. By the time nobody knows whether the junta members are fleeing from justice or want to go to Crimea (use Gorbi as a hostage?). ................................................................... : Alexander V. Fedotov Research Associate : : Plasma Phys. Division, General Physics Institute, Moscow, SU : : INET: alxfed@plasma.gpi.msk.su Voice: +7 095 132-8216 : : FAX : +7 095 135-0270 : :.................................................................: From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:36:39 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:36:21 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:03:40 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!jvdrd!relcom!news-server From: moroz@inzer.demos.su (Oleg Moroz) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: Yeltsin just called Gorby Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 17:23:20 GMT Sender: news-server@relcom Reply-To: moroz@inzer.demos.su Organization: Steepler Ltd. Lines: 12 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO Hello from Moscow ! As Radio Russia said Boris Yeltsin just had a phone conversation with Mikhail Gorbachev, who's now in Yalta. 4 or 5 putschers landed in Simpheropol, among them Yazov, Pugo and Kryuchkov. No more info for now. Oleg -- Oleg Moroz Internet: moroz@inzer.demos.su Software engineer phone: +007 (095) 245-2194 Moscow, USSR +007 (095) 214-8192 From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:37:15 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:36:53 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:03:46 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!fuug!demos!jvdrd!relcom!news-server From: postmaster@brokin.msk.su (Grachov Vadim Anatolyevich) Newsgroups: relcom.politics,talk.politics.soviet Subject: "--" Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 12:51:28 GMT Sender: news-server@relcom Reply-To: postmaster@brokin.msk.su Organization: KIAE Lines: 16 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO "b-i-s" 15.45 21 AWGUSTA tXFU-TXFU-TXFU... wRODE, DAJ bOG, WSE NORMALIZUETSQ. oDNAKO IZ bELOGO DOMA POSTUPILI SOOB]ENIQ O WSE E]E WOZMOVNOM PERE- NOSE PROWOKACIJ S BELOGO DOMA NA .... SAMI PONIMAETE. pRINQTO RE[ENIE O WREMENNOM PREKRA]ENII MOEJ RABOTY. sOOB]ENIE RADIO rOSSII - GRUPPA ZAGOWOR]IKOW ARESTOWANA. wOZMOVNO, WYJDU NA SWQZX S DRUGOJ MA[INY. sPASIBO wsem. cELU@ WSEH-WSEH-WSEH KREPKO. i POZDRAWLQ@. ... vEN]INY MOGUT POPLAKATX! From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:37:47 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:37:30 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:35:15 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!sics.se!ifi.uio.no!geirha From: geirha@ifi.uio.no (Geir Egil Hauge) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: The demonstration: LINK FOR PEACE AND DEMOCRACY Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 19:57:18 GMT Sender: geirha@ifi.uio.no (Geir Egil Hauge) Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway Lines: 8 Nntp-Posting-Host: holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no Originator: geirha@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO Due to the stabilization in the Soviet, and the restoration of Gorbachev, the demonstration: LINK FOR PEACE AND DEMOCRACY is cancelled. (The project was a private one, and has now finished). Millions of congratulations to the Soviet people. Yours Sincerely, Geir Egil Hauge From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:38:54 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:38:37 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:35:32 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!ugle.unit.no!nuug!ifi.uio.no!kth.se!eru!bloom-beacon!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!MIT.EDU!dks From: dks@MIT.EDU (Dhanesh K. Samarasan) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: READ ME, PLEASE... Message-Id: <9108211322.AA03864@MIT.EDU> Date: 21 Aug 91 16:19:09 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 62 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO People: I have received MANY messages of the following nature: > COuld you give me addresses to people in the USSR that I could write > to. Thanks!!! ... > Hey, I have a question. I am somewhat familiar with outdials in > the US. Is there any way to do the same in the USSR? ... > ... have you heard anything from Russia (moscow or > lenningrad)? I've got no news. Am I cut off from tps-l? ... > For historical reasons, could you post some of these Emails? ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I don't mean to be a jerk but: 1. The people I'm in touch with in M & L are using me to get stuff out. 2. There is much I'd like to say to them, but THEIR DEEDS count now. I am not writing much TO these people at the moment. I only send brief encoded+compressed summaries of what we know, and help mostly to get their stuff out here. Nevertheless, I believe that OPEN COMMUNICATION LINES ARE ONLY USEFUL IF THEY ARE USED, AND USED SENSIBLY. I suggest that people who are interested look in "comp.mail.maps" (etc.) for addresses of "postmasters": these are people who can respond and organize correspondence as appropriate to their local situations. Many will be busy, so don't be disappointed if they do not reply. Some will not be sympathetic to you, so be discreet in your initial contacts. All of them communicate well enough to understand sincerity in any language. If YOU are willing to relay information INTO the SU, focus your attention and energy (and believe me, it takes energy) on people outside Moscow and Leningrad: you can find, for example, a map of sites in the Ukraine. ABOVE ALL, DO NOT STOP WRITING TO THESE PEOPLE ONCE THE CRISIS PASSES. THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS WHO HAVE BEEN ISOLATED FOR YEARS AND NEED TO KNOW THAT SINCERE AND SUSTAINED COMMUNICATION FOR ITS OWN SAKE IS STILL POSSIBLE. I truly hope I have been helpful. I know its frustrating not to be able to do anything. I think all of us world-wide feel a deep anger at the people who have "led" us all into this ##### mess. Seething, but not silent, Dhanesh PS: Feel free to contact me (again) by e-mail if you wish. ________________________________________________________________________ Dhanesh K. Samarasan, | Telephone: 617.666.3976 Building 5, Room 211, | Telefax: 617.253.2660 MIT, Cambridge, | Internet: dks@mit.edu MA 02139, USA | AppleLink: dks ________________________________________________________________________ From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:40:03 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:39:46 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:36:20 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!mcsun!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!mantis!mathew From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (Industrial Poet) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet Subject: Re: Baltics News on soc.rights.human Message-Id: <500171w164w@mantis.co.uk> Date: 21 Aug 91 14:33:15 GMT References: <35161@usc.edu> Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK. Lines: 17 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO kriz@skat.usc.edu (KRIZ) writes: > Would like to inform the readerships that statements from the Baltics > republics are being posted on the group "soc.rights.human" This is > because the gateway at ucbvax appears to relay messages to s.r.h. > but apparently not to talk.politics.soviet and soc.culture.soviet. People unable to post to soc.culture.soviet via ucbvax should now be able to post via us; mail to soc-culture-soviet@mantis.co.uk rather than soc-culture-soviet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu. This is a temporary measure until ucbvax starts relaying; we're on UUCP, so no enormous (>32K) messages please. mathew From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:40:42 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:40:24 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:36:26 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!mcsun!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!mantis!mathew From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (Industrial Poet) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet Subject: Important note for people posting messages from the USSR Message-Id: <2LB272w164w@mantis.co.uk> Date: 21 Aug 91 15:02:00 GMT Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK. Lines: 22 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO People have been (quite rightly) removing the names of individuals from messages they have been posting. Please also consider removing the names of organizations -- i.e. delete any references to which network the message used to get to you, and don't mention exactly which organization it was sent from. If the authorities in the USSR find out about Usenet, we don't want them saying "Ah, ***** in Moscow, let's go and pay them a little visit..." So limit references to "Someone working in Moscow", "Someone in Leningrad" or similar. We can restore the attributions when the emergency is over. Just to add to the list, people can send me surface mail at Mantis Consultants, Unit 56, St John's Innovation Centre, Cambridge. CB4 4WS. UK. I'll forward any relevant messages to these newsgroups. My girlfriend can translate from Russian if necessary, I'm sure she'll be willing to help... mathew [ I'll give a fax number if anyone thinks it'll help... ] From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:41:19 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:40:57 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:36:51 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!news.funet.fi!fuug!mcsun!uunet!seismo!dimacs.rutgers.edu!rutgers!netnews.upenn.edu!eniac.seas.upenn.edu!dmahoney From: dmahoney@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Dale Mahoney) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: NPR reports that the coup is failing?? Message-Id: <48826@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 21 Aug 91 13:12:17 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Lines: 9 Nntp-Posting-Host: eniac.seas.upenn.edu Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO The National Public Radio network (US) is reporting that the coup is faltering. They have reports that the coup members have tried to flee Moscow via the airport and that a contingent from the Russian Parliament are going to request to see Gorbachev. Any confirmation of this information? --Dale dmahoney@eniac.seas.upenn.edu From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:41:51 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:41:33 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:37:09 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!psinntp!fernwood!apple!ig!vax.acs.open.ac.uk!AEB_BEVAN From: AEB_BEVAN@vax.acs.open.ac.uk Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: apparent collapse Message-Id: Date: 21 Aug 91 13:08:27 GMT Sender: daemon@presto.ig.com Reply-To: "talk.politics.soviet via ListServ" Lines: 18 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO BBC and ITN new in Britain say coup appears on teh point of collapse. BBC TV showed columns of hundreds of tanks and troop carriers streaming out of Moscow apparently towards barracks. Official ZIL limousines were seen leaving the Kremlin in packs. BBC has film of these limousines on teh road to Vnukovo airport (the airport used by soviet officials). In teh last few minutes BBC reports a statement to teh Russian parliament that all the coup leaders have been arrested at Vnukovo; Yeltsin had earlier issued an order for tehir arrets. The deputy chairman of the KPCCP has demanded to see Gorbachev, saying that without such a meeting the Soviet Communist party cannot make an assesment of teh events of 19 August. Edis Bevan From cri.dk!news Fri Aug 23 02:42:30 1991 remote from ddc Received: by sandes.cri.dk; Fri, 23 Aug 91 02:42:13 +0200 Received: by cri.dk; Thu, 22 Aug 91 03:37:29 +0200 Path: cri.dk!dkuug!sunic!ugle.unit.no!nuug!ifi.uio.no!kth.se!eru!bloom-beacon!mintaka!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!udel!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!skippy.umiacs.umd.edu!ktaylor From: ktaylor@skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (Kenneth Taylor) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: TASS REPORT VIA REUTERS Message-Id: <38420@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 21 Aug 91 13:28:32 GMT Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Reply-To: ktaylor@umiacs.umd.edu (Kenneth Taylor) Distribution: talk.politics.soviet Organization: UMIACS, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742 Lines: 6 Apparently-To: ns@sandes.cri.dk Status: RO NPR just read a report from Reuters quoting Tass. According to Tass, the Soveiet Defense Ministry has ordered all Soviet troops to withdraw from Moscow. If it's true, the coupe is definitely dead. ken taylor